tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12392119.post8745260123054525897..comments2023-10-25T03:24:19.388-07:00Comments on Further Adventures of Indigo Red: The Great UC Davis Pepper Spray IncidentIndigo Redhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07488424336985581412noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12392119.post-4018646286029611262011-11-24T06:22:34.812-08:002011-11-24T06:22:34.812-08:00That was not a protest it was an orchestrated grou...That was not a protest it was an orchestrated group crime. If you are blocking the sidewalk and ignoring thr rights of others and then refuse to cease that unlawful action, whatever it takes to make you stop is just too damn bad. What really happened is that those bored little idiots paid a price for having something to talk about when they wanted to show everyone how cool thgey are. DonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12392119.post-5642878631312622902011-11-23T10:59:59.864-08:002011-11-23T10:59:59.864-08:00There was no riot. It was a PROTEST. As you said y...There was no riot. It was a PROTEST. As you said yourself, the few people that showed violence towards the police were arrested well before this incident, and they did not incite other students to start attacking.<br /><br />When a few students started chanting "F*ck the police," they were silenced by the majority of students.<br /><br />This was meant to be a peaceful protest. Such a protest is not unlawful, it is a constitutional right. Therefore, by your own cited definitions, these students were violating no laws, and the police therefore did not have the right to forcefully disperse them.<br /><br />I understand that the police may have been acting under orders, but the orders were unlawful. Even if you were able to make the case that the students legally needed to move (which they didn't), the punishment did not fit the crime. You don't shoot out someone's kneecaps for littering. You don't douse somebody who is siting an making no attempts to be violent in the face and throat with high doses of concentrated pepper spray. And just because you can find examples of "crueler" punishments in history does not make this any less repugnant, nor does it make it legal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12392119.post-75907885687459338462011-11-22T09:38:00.909-08:002011-11-22T09:38:00.909-08:00I know what you mean, Don. I recall from history w...I know what you mean, Don. I recall from history when MacArthur was ordered to clear WWI veterans from Washington DC encampments; he did it none too gently and became a national hero instead of a disgrace. National Guards and Federal troops were used by Truman to end a national rail strike. Earlier Washington used troops to end the Whiskey Rebellion, Lincoln called upon troops fresh from the Gettysburg battle to put down the New York draft riots.<br /><br />It all changed during the Civil Rights urban battles when LIFE magazine photographed dogs and fire hoses used on race demonstrators. The ill feelings engendered were transferred almost immediately to mostly white college anti-war protesters. It's no longer possible for authorities to do their duty, but is obligatory that they bear the brunt of verbal taunts and assaults. It is good for the protesters that the pepper spray option is available, otherwise the personal patience of the officers might run out in favor of a deadly sidearm. I don't think I could do what the Campus Police did.Indigo Redhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07488424336985581412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12392119.post-79252840804188053712011-11-22T05:25:14.155-08:002011-11-22T05:25:14.155-08:00Back when I was a cop I never had dthat much patie...Back when I was a cop I never had dthat much patience. I would have used the nuclear option much quicker. DonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com