Thursday, September 04, 2008

Obama Threatens Suing Bush to Get White House

The One couldn't buy his way into the White House with terrorist money. He couldn't intimidate his way into the White House by shutting down bloggers, journalists, and anyone else opposing him. He couldn't intellectualize his way into the White House because hard answers to hard question are above his pay grade.

Now Barack Obama may try suing his way into the White House. According to The Guardian, Joe Biden told ABC News, "Barack Obama could pursue criminal charges against the Bush administration if they are elected in November."

Just amazing!

Democratic vice-presidential nominee Joe Biden said yesterday that he and running mate Barack Obama could pursue criminal charges against the Bush administration if they are elected in November.

Biden's comments, first reported by ABC news, attracted little notice on a day dominated by the drama surrounding his Republican counterpart, Alaska governor Sarah Palin.

"If there has been a basis upon which you can pursue someone for a criminal violation, they will be pursued," Biden said during a campaign event in Deerfield Beach, Florida, according to ABC.

"[N]ot out of vengeance, not out of retribution," he added, "out of the need to preserve the notion that no one, no attorney general, no president -- no one is above the law."

Obama sounded a similar note in April, vowing that if elected, he would ask his attorney general to initiate a prompt review of Bush-era actions to distinguish between possible "genuine crimes" and "really bad policies".

"[I]f crimes have been committed, they should be investigated," Obama told the Philadelphia Daily News. "You're also right that I would not want my first term consumed by what was perceived on the part of Republicans as a partisan witch hunt, because I think we've got too many problems we've got to solve."

Read the whole sordid plot.

h/t Infidel Bloggers Alliance

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The WordSmith from Nantucket said...

I don't know if Biden's just blowing smoke for the sake of anti-war BDS constituents, or if he actually believes this is something worth pursuing.

In either case, he's a blockhead.

Indigo Red said...

He's a blockhead blowing smoke, Word. It isn't that anyone will actually sue a Former-President, but there are people out there who will vote Obama/Biden just because Biden says they will prosecute.

Like I said, they can't buy, beg, or intimidate themselves into the WH, so they threaten to prosecute their way in. And that is good enough.

suek said...

We still don't know if Obama is eligible for the presidency. You know...that birth certificate thingy. The Constitution requires that you be a "natural born" citizen.
Check out for more info.

I don't know if it's going anywhere, but if all he has to do is produce a legitimate birth certificate from Hawaii, why the heck doesn't he do it?

The issue has certainly raised a lot of questions in my mind, though...there doesn't seem to be a good system for assuring that someone is actually elgible - though most of the time, I guess it isn't an issue. Still...have you thought about what happens if something happens to a Presidential candidate between the nomination and the election? or between the election and the swearing in?? I hadn't given it much thought...

Indigo Red said...

Heck, suek, at this point in the birth cert arguement, I'm not sure he was even born. 'Stepford' comes to mind.

What happens between election swearing-in is the easier question. The elected VP is sworn. If both P and VP are lost, I've no idea.

Before the election, is totally different as the Constitution is not in play except for the requirements for office. I would suppose the Party rules would be relied upon. I've no idea what the rules have been and are.

I'm sure somebody has thought the hard thoughts. At least, I hope somebody has.

Gayle said...

I hope somebody has too, Indigo! I'm still not certain that Obama was born a United States Citizen. Time alone will tell. I'm sure someone is going to jump on it if it's true. That birth certificate he put on his post has been proven to be a phony. Seems to me that something should emerge before too long.

Obama is so liberal it's a wonder his pants stay up in public!

Mike's America said...

Democrats have been slowly criminalizing political activity by conservatives and Republicans for years.

What do you think the stink over Valerie Plame Wilson was all about? There were no charges filed for any violation of the law protecting CIA agents (she didn't meet the criteria the law required) but the investigation "caught" Scooter Libby after he basically forgot what he had for breakfast two years before.

That entire effort tied the Bush Administration in knots during a time when the war was not going well. It was a deliberate effort by Democrats to overturn the Constitutionally elected government using phony charges to create an investigation that could be used as a political weapon.

Someone needs to investigate Biden's son for lobbying Obama and getting millions in ear marks for his clients.

Someone should investigate how the Obama campaign has been directing payments to voters through groups like ACORN (the "community organizers" Obama is so familiar with).

Oh, but I forgot, those are Democrats, it would be wrong to investigate them!

Indigo Red said...

Think he wears a belt, Gayle. ;)

Oh, boy, you are so right about that, Mike! Republicans could do the same right back at 'em, but we have this understanding that the law applies to everyone. By closing down freedom of speech for means we all lose that right. Democrats don't seem to have that uderstanding.

But, then with liberal judges on their side, maybe to bias would only work in one direction.

dcat said...

in their face! LOL Idiots!

Obaaabaaa is an asswipe!

Wes Wiles said...

Could someone please provide a post explaining where Obama, Biden, or anyone else on his campaign staff has threatened to sue for office? The article linked to mentions nothing about "suing bush to get (the) White House". The article mentions that if elected he would consider hearings to file criminal charges against the president. If Mr. Bush is guilty of no criminal activity than any special prosecutor should have great difficulty in claiming it to be so.
After reading your Matt Damon post, I figured you for a conservative individual, concerned about the integrity of the presidential race. After reading this one at the very least I'd have to consider you a desperate blogger posting ludicrous headlines to get readership. Someone less generous might just consider you to be a libelous, deceitful propagandist, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume your just in soar need of attention.

Indigo Red said...

Okay, Wes. I don't knkow your age or life experience level, however, from what I can gather from your blogs, you are fairly new to the politics game.

The purpose of most politicking, especially in a Presidential cycle, has nothing to do with issues. It is almost exclusively to throw the opponent off balance, forcing them to play defence.

The rest of it has to do with getting the marginal voters to vote "your" way, whomever 'your' may represent. In this case, Obama and Biden have no intention of sueing anyone to get the White House anymore than they had of closing down contrary blogs and journalists. The intent is to grab those who think sueing is a good idea. Just yesterday, Jeanine Garafallo said all Republicans should be jailed. Will that happen? No. Does the lady really want all Republicans in jail? Probably, but she knows that won't happen. It got attention, though, and a certain percentage will gravitate to any ticket advocating the jailing of Republicans.

Obama promised to end the Iraq war on January 20th the day he takes the oath of office. By making that promise, he got a lot of support. Now that he is not going to end the war on 1/20, those same people likely will remain with him. He promised to take only campaign matching funds for his General Election work. For that he got alot of support from people who believe in public financing. However, he has refused public financing and those same people wll probably not desert him now.

Do you get what I'm saying here? Obama, Clinton, Romney, McCain all promised to do certain things that brought them support. Once the support was given, it is very unlikely the support will be withdrawn, especially now when the race is down to the finalists.

I wrote at the top of the post, "The One couldn't buy his way into the White House with terrorist money. He couldn't intimidate his way into the White House by shutting down bloggers, journalists, and anyone else opposing him. He couldn't intellectualize his way into the White House because hard answers to hard question are above his pay grade." Those were just feints to throw off the opposition and garner support from among the more radical elements. Even if the opposition goes after such proposals, making disparaging remarks and ads about them, the oppostion is still thrown off message for a day or two. It works both ways.

That's what the Matt Damon, Chevy Chase, Pam Anderson, and the whole entertainment stuff is all about. If you look back in our election history you'll find examples far worse than anything done today. When James Madison was the nominee, Dolly Madison was accused in public of having an affair with Thomas Jefferson. It wasn't true, but it did get the issues buried for awhile.

I am only pointing out the fakes and psyches the opposition is employing. You may not agree, Wes, that the action is a distraction or cheap shot, but that's American politics. It's always been rough and tumble, it's played for keeps, we have always decried the negative campaign and it's the rersponsibilty of the voter to sift through the chaff to get the wheat. But, my god, do we love it so!

Wes Wiles said...

Red, while I'm strongly opposed to you diversionary tactics, I do respect your straight shooter explanation.
I'm well aware that most politicking doesn't have much to do with the issues, but I would argue that Obama's personal politicking above any other major candidate is based on the issues. That's why I support the man. McCain at one time was a similar type of politician, but the mudslinging (and resulting defeat) he took in 2000 from the GWB campaign broke a bit of him I believe. Today he seems much more comfortable imploring the tactics you described, because I think in his heart he feels in a straight issues campaign he would lose.
I'll leave you and the rest of the GOP machine to battle for some extremist support, and in the mean time I'll try to persuade the apathetic folks I know to get off their asses and vote Barack. In the end it looks like that's what this thing might come down to.