Saturday, March 15, 2008

Barack Obama, Jeremiah Wright Part Ways But How Much?

Gallons of ink are being spilled concerning new found relationship between Sen. Barack Obama, candidate for president, and Rev. Jeremiah Wright, former head pastor of the Trinity United Church of Christ of Chicago. Nearly all of it expressing surprise that Obama would be a member of a church of which the preacher is now determined to be racist.

Allahpundit writes at Hot Air that Obama offers in an apologia in a "three-pronged defense: (a) he didn’t know, (b) he condemns what Wright said without reservation, and (c) the guy’s retiring anyway."

Allahpundit then asks, "Is he suggesting that in 20 years’ time he never heard Wright say anything along these lines? Or is he merely suggesting that he was never personally in attendance when Wright said it, as if that would matter remotely to his decision to stay with the church once he heard about it secondhand?"

These questions were addressed by New York Times reporter, Jodi Kantor almost a year ago -




April 30, 2007

A Candidate, His Minister and the Search for Faith
By JODI KANTOR

CHICAGO — Members of Trinity United Church of Christ squeezed into a downtown hotel ballroom in early March to celebrate the long service of their pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. One congregant stood out amid the flowers and finery: Senator Barack Obama, there to honor the man who led him from skeptic to self-described Christian.

Twenty years ago at Trinity, Mr. Obama, then a community organizer in poor Chicago neighborhoods, found the African-American community he had sought all his life, along with professional credibility as a community organizer and an education in how to inspire followers. He had sampled various faiths but adopted none until he met Mr. Wright, a dynamic pastor who preached Afrocentric theology, dabbled in radical politics and delivered music-and-profanity-spiked sermons.

Few of those at Mr. Wright’s tribute in March knew of the pressures that Mr. Obama’s presidential run was placing on the relationship between the pastor and his star congregant. Mr. Wright’s assertions of widespread white racism and his scorching remarks about American government have drawn criticism, and prompted the senator to cancel his delivery of the invocation when he formally announced his candidacy in February.

Mr. Obama, a Democratic presidential candidate who says he was only shielding his pastor from the spotlight, said he respected Mr. Wright’s work for the poor and his fight against injustice. But “we don’t agree on everything,” Mr. Obama said. “I’ve never had a thorough conversation with him about all aspects of politics.”

It is hard to imagine, though, how Mr. Obama can truly distance himself from Mr. Wright. The Christianity that Mr. Obama adopted at Trinity has infused not only his life, but also his campaign. He began his presidential announcement with the phrase “Giving all praise and honor to God,” a salutation common in the black church. He titled his second book, “The Audacity of Hope,” after one of Mr. Wright’s sermons, and often talks about biblical underdogs, the mutual interests of religious and secular America, and the centrality of faith in public life.

The day after the party for Mr. Wright, Mr. Obama stood in an A.M.E. church pulpit in Selma, Ala., and cast his candidacy in nothing short of biblical terms, implicitly comparing himself to Joshua, known for his relative inexperience, steadfast faith and completion of Moses’ mission of delivering his people to the Promised Land.

“Be strong and have courage, for I am with you wherever you go,” Mr. Obama said in paraphrasing God’s message to Joshua.

It is difficult to tell whether Mr. Obama’s religious and political beliefs are fused or simply run parallel. The junior senator from Illinois often talks of faith as a moral force essential for solving America’s vexing problems. Like Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York and John Edwards, his fellow Democratic candidates, he expresses both a political and a religious obligation to help the downtrodden. Like conservative Christians, he speaks of AIDS as a moral crisis. And like his pastor, Mr. Obama opposes the Iraq war.

His embrace of faith was a sharp change for a man whose family offered him something of a crash course in comparative religion but no belief to call his own. “He comes from a very secular, skeptical family,” said Jim Wallis, a Christian antipoverty activist and longtime friend of Mr. Obama. “His faith is really a personal and an adult choice. His is a conversion story.”

The grandparents who helped raise Mr. Obama were nonpracticing Baptists and Methodists. His mother was an anthropologist who collected religious texts the way others picked up tribal masks, teaching her children the inspirational power of the common narratives and heroes. (What has happened to Obama's white family? - I.R.)

His mother’s tutelage took place mostly in Indonesia, in the household of Mr. Obama’s stepfather, Lolo Soetoro, a nominal Muslim who hung prayer beads over his bed but enjoyed bacon, which Islam forbids.

“My whole family was Muslim, and most of the people I knew were Muslim,” said Maya Soetoro-Ng, Mr. Obama’s younger half sister. But Mr. Obama attended a Catholic school and then a Muslim public school where the religious education was cursory. When he was 10, he returned to his birthplace of Hawaii to live with his grandparents and attended a preparatory school with a Christian affiliation but little religious instruction. (Obama lived with and learned from his Caucasian family since age ten ... why is Obama black? Not saying that's bad. Just wondering what made Barry black rather than white, or Arab. - I.R.)

Years later, Mr. Obama met his father’s family, a mix of Muslim and Christian Kenyans. Sarah Hussein Obama, who is his stepgrandmother but whom Mr. Obama calls his grandmother, still rises at 5 a.m. to pray before tending to her crops and the three orphans she has taken in.

“I am a strong believer of the Islamic faith,” Ms. Obama, 85, said in a recent interview in Kenya.

From Skepticism to Belief

This polyglot background made Mr. Obama tolerant of others’ faiths yet reluctant to join one, said Mr. Wright, the pastor. In an interview in March in his office, filled with mementos from his 35 years at Trinity, Mr. Wright recalled his first encounters with Mr. Obama in the late 1980s, when the future senator was organizing Chicago neighborhoods. Though minister after minister told Mr. Obama he would be more credible if he joined a church, he was not a believer.

“I remained a reluctant skeptic, doubtful of my own motives, wary of expedient conversion, having too many quarrels with God to accept a salvation too easily won,” he wrote in his first book, “Dreams From My Father.” (This statement shows Barack was not a non-believer; one cannot have quarrels with something that doesn't exist. The timing of his church membership is convenient enough to raise questions as to his genuine motivation. - I.R.)

Still, Mr. Obama was entranced by Mr. Wright, whose sermons fused analysis of the Bible with outrage at what he saw as the racism of everything from daily life in Chicago to American foreign policy. Mr. Obama had never met a minister who made pilgrimages to Africa, welcomed women leaders and gay members and crooned Teddy Pendergrass rhythm and blues from the pulpit. Mr. Wright was making Trinity a social force, initiating day care, drug counseling, legal aid and tutoring. He was also interested in the world beyond his own; in 1984, he traveled to Cuba to teach Christians about the value of nonviolent protest and to Libya to visit Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi, along with the Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan. Mr. Wright said his visits implied no endorsement of their views. (Is it really any mystery from where Obama gets his desire to talk with the most vile of leaders without preconditions and beliefs that meer happy talk will bring world peace? - I.R.)

Followers were also drawn simply by Mr. Wright’s appeal. Trinity has 8,500 members today, making it the largest American congregation in the United Church of Christ, a mostly white denomination known for the independence of its congregations and its willingness to experiment with traditional Protestant theology.

Mr. Wright preached black liberation theology, which interprets the Bible as the story of the struggles of black people, who by virtue of their oppression are better able to understand Scripture than those who have suffered less. That message can sound different to white audiences, said Dwight Hopkins, a professor at University of Chicago Divinity School and a Trinity member. “Some white people hear it as racism in reverse,” Dr. Hopkins said, while blacks hear, “Yes, we are somebody, we’re also made in God’s image.” (Only whites are racists and only blacks can understand the Bible. Nope. Nothing wrong there. - I.R.)

Audacity and Hope

It was a 1988 sermon called
The Audacity to Hope that turned Mr. Obama, in his late 20s, from spiritual outsider to enthusiastic churchgoer. Mr. Wright in the sermon jumped from 19th-century art to his own youthful brushes with crime and Islam to illustrate faith’s power to inspire underdogs. Mr. Obama was seeing the same thing in public housing projects where poor residents sustained themselves through sheer belief.

In “Dreams From My Father,” Mr. Obama described his teary-eyed reaction to the minister’s words. “Inside the thousands of churches across the city, I imagined the stories of ordinary black people merging with the stories of David and Goliath, Moses and Pharaoh, the Christians in the lion’s den, Ezekiel’s field of dry bones,” Mr. Obama wrote. “Those stories — of survival, and freedom, and hope — became our story, my story.” (This is the most troubling to me. Barack Obama had no faith in his own story, so he felt obliged to take the stories of others to justify and validate himself, like a chamelion adopting the surrounding colors to survive. What and who is Barack Obama? Does Barack Obama know? Once President, what persona will emerge or will his falsified story crumble leaving an empty vessel into which any damned stupidity can be poured? - I.R.)

Mr. Obama was baptized that year, and joining Trinity helped him “embrace the African-American community in a way that was whole and profound,” said Ms. Soetoro, his half sister.

It also helped give him spiritual bona fides and a new assurance. Services at Trinity were a weekly master class in how to move an audience. When Mr. Obama arrived at Harvard Law School later that year, where he fortified himself with recordings of Mr. Wright’s sermons, he was delivering stirring speeches as a student leader in the classic oratorical style of the black church. (Fortified himself with recordings of Wrights sermons ... Clearly, Obama did not need to physically be in the church audience to have heard to racist proclamations on Jeremiah Wright, he had the sermons on tape to listen to as often as he wished. It is little wonder that the now priviledged Obama family are so disgusted with the country that has provided them with so much. - I.R.)

But he developed a tone very different from his pastor’s. In contrast with Mr. Wright — the kind of speaker who could make a grocery list sound like a jeremiad — Mr. Obama speaks with cool intellect and on-the-one-hand reasoning. He tends to emphasize the reasonableness of all people; Mr. Wright rallies his parishioners against oppressors.

While Mr. Obama stated his opposition to the Iraq war in conventional terms, Mr. Wright issued a “War on Iraq I.Q. Test,” with questions like, “Which country do you think poses the greatest threat to global peace: Iraq or the U.S.?”

In the 16 years since Mr. Obama returned to Chicago from Harvard, Mr. Wright has presided over his wedding ceremony, baptized his two daughters and dedicated his house, while Mr. Obama has often spoken at Trinity’s panels and debates. Though the Obamas drop in on other congregations, they treat Trinity as their spiritual home, attending services frequently. The church’s Afrocentric focus makes Mr. Obama a figure of particular authenticity there, because he has the African connections so many members have searched for.

To the many members who, like the Obamas, are the first generation in their families to achieve financial success, the church warns against “middleclassness,” its term for selfish individualism, and urges them to channel their gains back into the community.
Mr. Obama has written that when he became a Christian, he “felt God’s spirit beckoning” and “submitted myself to His will and dedicated myself to discovering His truth.” While he has said he shares core Christian beliefs in God and in Jesus as his resurrected son, he sometimes mentions doubts. In his second book, he admitted uncertainty about the afterlife, and “what existed before the Big Bang.” Generally, Mr. Obama emphasizes the communal aspects of religion over the supernatural ones.
Bridging Religious Divides

He has said that he relies on Mr. Wright to ensure “that I am speaking as truthfully about what I believe as possible.” He tends to turn to his minister at moments of frustration, Mr. Wright said, such as when Mr. Obama felt a Congressional Black Caucus meeting was heavier on entertainment than substance.

As a presidential candidate, Mr. Obama is reaching out to both liberal skeptics and committed Christians. In many speeches or discussions, he never mentions religion. When Mr. Obama, a former constitutional law professor, does speak of faith, he tends to add a footnote about keeping church and state separate.

But he also talks of building a consensus among secular liberal and conservative Christian voters. Mr. Wallis, the antipoverty advocate who calls himself a “progressive evangelical,” first met Mr. Obama 10 years ago when both participated in traveling seminars on American civic life. On bus rides, Mr. Wallis and Mr. Obama would huddle, away from company like George Stephanopoulos and Ralph Reed, to plot building a coalition of progressive and religious voters.

“The problems of poverty and racism, the uninsured and the unemployed, are not simply technical problems in search of the perfect 10 point plan,” Mr. Obama says in one of his standard campaign lines. “They are rooted in both societal indifference and individual callousness — in the imperfections of man.”

He often makes reference to the civil rights movement, when liberals used Christian rhetoric to win change.

Mr. Obama reassures liberal audiences about the role of religion in public life, and he tells conservative Christians that he understands why abortion horrifies them and why they may prefer to curb H.I.V. through abstinence instead of condoms. AIDS has spread in part because “the relationship between men and women, between sexuality and spirituality, has broken down, and needs to be repaired,” he said to thunderous applause in December at the megachurch in California led by the Rev. Rick Warren, a best-selling author.

At the same time, Mr. Obama’s ties to Trinity have become more complicated than those simply of proud congregation and favorite son. Since Mr. Obama announced his candidacy, the church has received threatening phone calls. On blogs and cable news shows, conservative critics have called it separatist and antiwhite.

Congregants respond by saying critics are misreading the church’s tenets, that it is a warm and accepting community and is not hostile to whites. But Mr. Wright’s political statements may be more controversial than his theological ones. He has said that Zionism has an element of “white racism.” (For its part, the Anti-Defamation League says it has no evidence of any anti-Semitism by Mr. Wright.)

On the Sunday after the terrorist attacks of 9/11, Mr. Wright said the attacks were a consequence of violent American policies. Four years later he wrote that the attacks had proved that “people of color had not gone away, faded into the woodwork or just ‘disappeared’ as the Great White West went on its merry way of ignoring Black concerns.” (This is the very stuff bloggers and pundits are writing an dtalking about now, a year after this NYT report. - I.R.)

Provocative Assertions

Such statements involve “a certain deeply embedded anti-Americanism,” said Michael Cromartie, vice president of the Ethics and Public Policy Center, a conservative group that studies religious issues and public policy. “A lot of people are going to say to Mr. Obama, are these your views?”

Mr. Obama says they are not.

“The violence of 9/11 was inexcusable and without justification,” he said in a recent interview. He was not at Trinity the day Mr. Wright delivered his remarks shortly after the attacks, Mr. Obama said, but “it sounds like he was trying to be provocative.”

“Reverend Wright is a child of the 60s, and he often expresses himself in that language of concern with institutional racism and the struggles the African-American community has gone through,” Mr. Obama said. “He analyzes public events in the context of race. I tend to look at them through the context of social justice and inequality.”

Despite the canceled invocation, Mr. Wright prayed with the Obama family just before his presidential announcement. Asked later about the incident, the Obama campaign said in a statement, “Senator Obama is proud of his pastor and his church.”
In March, Mr. Wright said in an interview that his family and some close associates were angry about the canceled address, for which they blamed Obama campaign advisers but that the situation was “not irreparable,” adding, “Several things need to happen to fix it.”

Asked if he and Mr. Wright had patched up their differences, Mr. Obama said: “Those are conversations between me and my pastor.”

Mr. Wright, who has long prided himself on criticizing the establishment, said he knew that he may not play well in Mr. Obama’s audition for the ultimate establishment job.

“If Barack gets past the primary, he might have to publicly distance himself from me,” Mr. Wright said with a shrug. “I said it to Barack personally, and he said yeah, that might have to happen.”

And that is exactly what Obama is desperately trying to do. Ben Smith of Politico informs yesterday that Wright cut his "only formal tie to Obama." That does not absolve Obama from the requisite answering of questions and explanations. Sweetness & Light reminds that Obama told Wright in a phone conversation, You can get kind of rough in the sermons, so what we’ve decided is that it’s best for you not to be out there in public.”

Obama is now on his own. Well, sort of. Oprah Winfrey is a member of the same Trinity United Church of Christ; I don't think many would say she is too Afro-centric and radical.




Sources:
New York Times
NewYork Times Audio
Educate Yourself

Also see:
Political Punch
Huffington Post
Indigo Continuum



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14 comments:

Mike H. said...

The Rev. Wright is poison to Obama's campaign. Chris Wallace had Sens Dodd and Schumer on Fox today and they were both weaseling out from under Wright's statements. Good for Wallace cause he kept their feet to the fire.

BTW, both Schumer who is for Hill and Dodd who is for Obama were defending Wright and Ferraro as if there were no internecine warfare going on.

Indigo Red said...

The internecine fighting going on in the Democrat Party is a welcome event. It's about time the whole party of hypocrits face up to their racism and bigotry.

It would be easy to say that the demise of the Dem Party and their nanny state policies, racism would disappear overnight, but that wouldn't be true. It would be a giant step in the right direction though.

dcat said...

Jeremiah was a bullfrog … LOL
See another clue!

I know they are racist and you can’t fool me!

We got lot's of amo now Indigo! :)


You should see the excuses he gave in the video at Hot Air. :p

Start opening that mouth wide Mike H! We got some screaming to do!

dcat said...

Oh &...

Damn straight obaabaa knew what that pastor was saying!

Very good post Indigo! Thank you!

Indigo Red said...

Okay, I was trying very hard to stay away from the bullfrog references, but thank you for bringing it up.

It's really too bad the NYT has got itsel such a bad reputation. Sometimes they can do some very nice work, but few read until almost too late.

I think Republicans desperately needs McCain to choose a minorty like Michael Steele as VP. I don't know any Republican who has a problem with oting for qualified minorities.

It's even hard to find Republicans who see minorities rather than fellow Americans.

dcat said...

damn! I hated that song!

I would change the channel as fast as I could on the first note!

Just like I do to idiots like obaabaaa! Oh and to liberal ass NYT!

Mike H. said...

Speaking of O'Bama.

Mike H. said...

BTW, Indigo, for me either Mitt R. or Michael S. will do nicely, although I would much rather have them at the head of the ticket.

Indigo Red said...

Well, Mike, that's certainly one way to change history, just rewrite it. Tyrants and false prophets have been doing it for years.

Indigo Red said...

I saw Three Dog Night perform at a freebie summer concert last year. The lead singer is drug free now, but in his Jeremiah Bullfrog days, he was stoned out of his skull 24/7. Perhaps that explains the song.

He's stll one heck of an entertainer, though.

Tina said...

More on the larger context here: http://acropolisreview.com/2008/03/barack-obama-condemns-reverend-jeremiah.html

Indigo Red said...

Thank you for stopping by, Tina.

I left the following at Acropolis review. The context is this:

While Barry was off to law school, he listened to the sermons of Rev Wright on tape. He says so in his books.

Before this controversy came to light Jerry and Barry discussed the probability that they would have to part company for the sake of Barry's presidential campaign.

Barry's claims that he never heard Jerry say anything mean while he, Barry, sat in the actual church building may be true, but it's a lawyerism. He was well aware of Jerry's opinions from the taped sermons.

With Barry's upbringing in foreign lands and with his "white" grandparents in Hawaii, Barry did not experience the life that he and Michelle claim as their own tragic story. Barry even says that he took the mournful stories of Jerry's oppressed as his own story.

Barack Obama is a fraud and false prophet. He has taken life details from others as his own, he came to Jesus after being told it would help his political career. When he was in the Illinois legislature, he did not get any legislation introduced until the Speaker passed bills his way to introduce - 21 of them. All of those bills passed and he took credit for all of them, but wrote none of them.

Barack Obama is a fraud no matter his color or religion, he's a fraud.

Mike H. said...

One of the problems with the narrative of the left is that, regardless of the statements made by the people of Iraq and the military who are talking about success, the canard about war in the wrong country has to be held to.

If even a minor acknowledgment were to be presented in favor of the current missions both in Afghanistan and Iraq the the left feels that it would see a carefully constructed house of cards wafting in the wind. They feel that nothing could be salvaged from the construct.

Were they able to admit that what is being reported from both parties in Iraq was true they would have a better standing among all the folks in the US.

Indigo Red said...

Right, Mike.

Another canard is the implication that one of the wars is legitimate and the other is not. The reality is that had Afghanistan remained the only front, that would be the country, the wrong time, the wrong war.

The reality is both countries are battlefronts of the same war and that war was brought to us. The war in its entirety is legitimate, the right war at the right time in the right countries. I would also like to see this war extended to Arabia to dislodge the Wahabis and the Saud family.

The liberals can waft all the cards they want in the wind, the Islamofacsist enemy still wants to kill or enslave all who disagreewith their version of an earthly paradise. Eventually, when the survival of democrats is at stake, then they will join the fight. Until then, they will cower behind their protest signs while drinking their lattes.